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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Sep 5, 2010 9:51am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Trivia question re: Fire on the Mountain

was just checking out the very cool Miller SBD of the 9/2/78 show, which rerportedly contains Dick Latvala's favorite Scarlet>Fire (It IS great, though I think a few other '78s are better, esp. 4/8, 4/16 and possibly 4/24...but I digress.

What I did notice was that in the 9/2/78 version jerry gives us the middle verse that for the first year or so of "Fire" was absent: "Almost ablaze still you don't feel the heat...", which stayed w/the song from then on.

was this the first show to feature the added middle verse?

This post was modified by grendelschoice on 2010-09-05 16:51:12

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Poster: vapors Date: Sep 5, 2010 9:48am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Trivia question re: Fire on the Mountain

I find it a bit amazing that it took so long (first played 3/18/77) for him to add that verse, but I believe 9/2/78 is the first time. Been skimming for almost an hour – thanks for the fun GC. (Jerry sang ‘almost ablaze’, which differed from Hunters’ lyric.)

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Sep 5, 2010 9:51am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Trivia question re: Fire on the Mountain

I actually just edited my 1st post b/c I realized I got "aflame" wrong*....did Hunter actually write "aflame?" I like Jerry's version better ;-)

* No wonder Jerry forgot the words to this tune so often ;-)

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Poster: DeadRed1971 Date: Sep 5, 2010 10:45am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Trivia question re: Fire on the Mountain

From what I've read only Widespread panic has done all the known verses to "fire" including an extra one GD or its various offshoots have never done.

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Poster: Jack o' Roses Date: Sep 5, 2010 12:13pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Trivia question re: Fire on the Mountain

...since it is trivia, is that "out of the rat trap & under the wire" & "out of the skillet & into the fire?" - didn't the dead at least rehearse it it in-studio?

Eureka:(http://www.archive.org/details/gd77-02-20.sbd.moreno.9470.sbeok.shnf?)

"...that (Nudie) cowboy suite...?"

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Poster: deadpolitics Date: Sep 5, 2010 7:33pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Trivia question re: Fire on the Mountain

From Hunter's Archive, here are the missing 2 verses:

Babys in scarlet, her shackles in grey
If loves to love she's got it salted away
Out of the rat trap and under the wire
Out of the frying pan and into the fire
Put it down heavy, strip it down lean
Got to lay it down dirty and play it back clean

Fireman, fireman, call off your dog
this isn't a blaze, it's just a hog in the log
Cut up in sections, squirming alive
lost to the world on that fifty cent jive
There's a fire on the mountain, running around
what doesn't go up can never come down

I remember reading some comments from band members stating that although they never sang these verses, one of these couplets became a motto for them. If I remember correctly, it was this one:

Put it down heavy, strip it down lean
Got to lay it down dirty and play it back clean

Sounds about right to me! Also, I really like the annotations for this one on Dodd's page http://artsites.ucsc.edu/GDead/agdl/fire.html

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Poster: vapors Date: Sep 5, 2010 10:28am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Trivia question re: Fire on the Mountain

Ha - I thought you were quoting (correctly) from Hunter.
I just threw that lyric part in there - not trying to be wise guy or nothing. :)
Aflame or ablaze, there sure are some smoking versions!

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Poster: stratocaster Date: Sep 5, 2010 9:33am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Trivia question re: Fire on the Mountain

I believe it might be sung on 12-31-1977, I have to go back and confirm, I do not recall this verse on previous 78 versions, i.e. 02-05, 04-11, 04-16, 05-11, 07-07...

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